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Hello community. Hope all of you had a nice Christmas and New Year.
I was thinking while putting away Christmas gifts (sort-of-resolution: don't let the house get this cluttered ever again) that gift-giving is a very problematic custom. My parents asked me what I wanted. I said 'nothing' because there was really no specific item that I needed at that time, and if there was, I would want to choose it myself. Parents, as they do, said I was going to have something for Christmas, what did I want? I suggested cold hard cash in lieu of presents, so they would be able to give me a gift as they wanted to and I would have money to save/spend when I had some idea of what I wanted. They agreed to this.
As it happened, I got presents and a small amount of cash. While I'm grateful for my parents' generosity, that they took the time to shop and search for me-specific gifts, I now have clutter, items that I'm unlikely to use but would feel bad to put on Ebay. Awkward.
On the other side of it, my parents are working professionals and anything I can afford to give them is probably not something they need or want - what to give to people who have everything? Nothing stresses me out as much as Christmas gift shopping. I'd like to propose a state of adults not exchanging gifts in the family, but I can't think of a way to phrase it without sounding like I'm trying to wiggle out of my daughterly duties, or that I'm secretly in dire financial straits and can't afford to give them even a small gift.
Hand-made gifts would be a possible idea but I'm a bit butterfingered/non-artistic/disorganised and don't think of these til the last minute. Perhaps this will be the year where I start sewing/drawing/pickling in October and manage to appear thoughtful without skinting myself buying unnecessary goods.
Would be interested to see what other Enoughists have to say about gift-giving customs.
I was thinking while putting away Christmas gifts (sort-of-resolution: don't let the house get this cluttered ever again) that gift-giving is a very problematic custom. My parents asked me what I wanted. I said 'nothing' because there was really no specific item that I needed at that time, and if there was, I would want to choose it myself. Parents, as they do, said I was going to have something for Christmas, what did I want? I suggested cold hard cash in lieu of presents, so they would be able to give me a gift as they wanted to and I would have money to save/spend when I had some idea of what I wanted. They agreed to this.
As it happened, I got presents and a small amount of cash. While I'm grateful for my parents' generosity, that they took the time to shop and search for me-specific gifts, I now have clutter, items that I'm unlikely to use but would feel bad to put on Ebay. Awkward.
On the other side of it, my parents are working professionals and anything I can afford to give them is probably not something they need or want - what to give to people who have everything? Nothing stresses me out as much as Christmas gift shopping. I'd like to propose a state of adults not exchanging gifts in the family, but I can't think of a way to phrase it without sounding like I'm trying to wiggle out of my daughterly duties, or that I'm secretly in dire financial straits and can't afford to give them even a small gift.
Hand-made gifts would be a possible idea but I'm a bit butterfingered/non-artistic/disorganised and don't think of these til the last minute. Perhaps this will be the year where I start sewing/drawing/pickling in October and manage to appear thoughtful without skinting myself buying unnecessary goods.
Would be interested to see what other Enoughists have to say about gift-giving customs.
curious
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One thing you can start to do is think of gearing your present requests towards:
* Charity -- things like Kiva work really well for that, since they'll be giving you funds you can choose to microlend out to, or making donations to certain causes you find important in your name.
* Experiences -- tickets to a certain event, the cost of an airplane ticket to visit someone, a state park license
* Consumables -- a favorite cheese, fancy chocolate, art supplies
* Or even digital things that won't take up physical space -- iTunes gift cards, Netflix subscriptions
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Gift giving etiquette is so confusing. Of the above, I'd be tempted to ask for train fare money, but that doesn't really fulfil the definition of 'gift' as something square, wrappable and able to be put under the Christmas tree.
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this is often difficult for me
when folks say that, i try to get them to say why. what is it they need?
do they need *me* to be happy? random stuff doesn't make me happy
or, do they need to see evidence of their love/affection? having a visual reminder, in my space, of their affection can be great. but they only get one - so mebbe a thing that can be customized or added to (candelabra with diff candles each year, picture frame with a new pic commemorating an event)
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I do know that this year in particular, my parents sort of really went all out, and I felt more than a bit awkward, because 99% of what they got me, I just had no idea what to do with. I think the best gifts I got were a Home Depot gift card and a pair of nice headphones. Everything else honestly just seemed really tacked on, in a "we must have X number of gifts!" way. I'm sort of in the same boat of trying to figure out what to do with all of these extra things, knowing that if my mom comes by, she'll probably want to use some of them (especially the lap-desk).
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I got that impression too - one of the things they'd got me was a hot chocolate and hot water bottle set. Came with a strange novelty mug with difficult-to-clean knobbles, 2 sachets of chocolate powder (which I don't really like) and a tiny-to-the-point-of-uselessness hot water bottle. This must have been fairly costly, not a cheap stocking filler type present. I will be sure to be using the stuffs if parents visit, but can see them spending the rest of the year in the cupboard. Just thinking, why? That's £20 that we could have spent on lunch or on any number of more useful things. Items that are sold as gifts and don't have any purpose beyond that suck.
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Oh man, do they ever. idk, it's for that reason that I'm usually amazingly picky when it comes to buying gifts for other people, because I don't want to get them something that they'll have to do the "awkward 'thank you'" about, you know?
I like getting coffee mugs, but the ones in novelty sets are almost never the sort that I would actually use due to their shape, not being dishwasher safe, or whatnot... I hate to complain, because then it looks like I'm being ungrateful, and I'd never complain to the recipient (unless they got me something that they know I'm allergic to or some other similar thing), but gift-giving can be a little irritating. I don't understand why there's such a stigma to giving money/gift cards, but I've heard a lot of people say that it's a really thoughtless gift. I just... don't understand that. If you give me money, well, then I can get what I really wanted. Or even use it for needs, like paying bills.
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I also have found with my "must give actual gifts" in-laws that a wish-list listing what I want, down to the exact brand item, works fairly well. It feels less spontaneous but at least I can use what I get. :)
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If gift cards and the like were large, square and wrappable, think there'd be much more of them being gifted.
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i simply don't buy presents for folks, unless i want to. and rarely on social holidays
most folks twig to the non reciprocity
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